by cumlord » Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:47 pm
it's all good over there, people are nice
and yes these are the things i'm thinking about anikey, but from what i'm hearing we would want ideally a single clearnet cross-seed. what should the quality/languages be? if we only have shit quality from megusta for each thing, then the swarms will be healthier, yes, but i2p will just have a bunch of low bitrate encodes and no other options that would scare people away that want to go watch something on a big screen.
if we only have 4k or h264 clearnet cross-seeds, less people want to wait for those especially in i2p because they're so often so large. not everyone wants or needs 4k. some people still prefer h264 because it plays on everything is still gold standard.
then there's 720p, if you're watching on a smaller screen you don't really need any bigger than this anyway. if you're doing 720p you'd also probably be perfectly happy with megusta level stuff.
then there's people that might ask for other languages. we could do only a multi, or only a handful of langs, but those can be large. i'd argue if we had to stick to one, it should be the larger h264 and only the main langs used here uncompressed so we're getting something high quality, but even doing something simple like that is going to change the infohash and it will still be on the heavier side for here, i think. compressing the audio for a multi would also change the infohash. multis are usually released raw so any compressing there i think we'd need to do ourselves, maybe there's someone doing it already, never looked, but if it's not available in clearnet already and we had to do it ourselves it'd change the infohash.
We're already looking at several different versions of the same content. my opinion is that this is overall a good thing, despite spreading seeds thinner. Variety gives people options, some people that see only megusta are going to leave because of low quality, others won't have the patience or space for bigger 264 to download if they didn't see megusta/elite/psa /rarbg or whatever. If you're going to do something like this quality-wise it's good to look for holes, i went for somewhere between h264 and the double pass encodes already available. if we have a lot of overlap, like someone cross-seeding megusta and someone else encoding with megusta settings, I agree completely that that would be pointless and what should happen is just allow the i2p-only encode to die out in favor of the megusta cross-seed.
i don't think we have to reinvent the wheel here, in some ways i2p is analogous to a kind of small private tracker, so we can draw from the experience there, they manage fine. private trackers are more about being in a community that trades media, be it from cross-seeding from other trackers and people sharing their own stuff they ripped, encoded, and/or muxed themselves. I think this should be encouraged, and there's a solid chunk of people that do that sort of thing here too which is awesome. But big difference here versus small pt's (beside i2p being slow): good trackers put emphasis on retention, which should also be important here but it's hit or miss. way i approach it is if i upload it, i seed indefinitely and figure if people like something, they will keep it long-term. If they do i let them have the brunt of bandwidth (and this obviously helps a lot).
you make completely valid points by the way, especially considering the small user base here and higher likelihood of the swarms dying. so it puts more stress on the people that can handle it to hold a lot of torrents down. my opinion is that there's more to gain by having variety than there is to lose. No doubt trust is a big factor too, even more important here since this is the darknet....but also not much different to a small pt that have their own smaller groups that don't get cross-seeded to the public torrent space much (or ever). i'm skeptical of them at first and look into them before i use them, but in some cases they are the ones getting obscure content or some other tailor-made thing i'm after. at least a couple times i've joined a tracker to get access to those releases not being cross-seeded elsewhere (that i could find).
there is some cool niche-level stuff here already especially with the older movies/shows people are putting out. timing can be improved for new things though, but maybe not with postman.
note: no hatred towards megusta et al i've used them a lot in the past myselfit's all good over there, people are nice :)
and yes these are the things i'm thinking about anikey, but from what i'm hearing we would want ideally a single clearnet cross-seed. what should the quality/languages be? if we only have shit quality from megusta for each thing, then the swarms will be healthier, yes, but i2p will just have a bunch of low bitrate encodes and no other options that would scare people away that want to go watch something on a big screen.
if we only have 4k or h264 clearnet cross-seeds, less people want to wait for those especially in i2p because they're so often so large. not everyone wants or needs 4k. some people still prefer h264 because it plays on everything is still gold standard.
then there's 720p, if you're watching on a smaller screen you don't really need any bigger than this anyway. if you're doing 720p you'd also probably be perfectly happy with megusta level stuff.
then there's people that might ask for other languages. we could do only a multi, or only a handful of langs, but those can be large. i'd argue if we had to stick to one, it should be the larger h264 and only the main langs used here uncompressed so we're getting something high quality, but even doing something simple like that is going to change the infohash and it will still be on the heavier side for here, i think. compressing the audio for a multi would also change the infohash. multis are usually released raw so any compressing there i think we'd need to do ourselves, maybe there's someone doing it already, never looked, but if it's not available in clearnet already and we had to do it ourselves it'd change the infohash.
We're already looking at several different versions of the same content. my opinion is that this is overall a good thing, despite spreading seeds thinner. Variety gives people options, some people that see only megusta are going to leave because of low quality, others won't have the patience or space for bigger 264 to download if they didn't see megusta/elite/psa /rarbg or whatever. If you're going to do something like this quality-wise it's good to look for holes, i went for somewhere between h264 and the double pass encodes already available. if we have a lot of overlap, like someone cross-seeding megusta and someone else encoding with megusta settings, I agree completely that that would be pointless and what should happen is just allow the i2p-only encode to die out in favor of the megusta cross-seed.
i don't think we have to reinvent the wheel here, in some ways i2p is analogous to a kind of small private tracker, so we can draw from the experience there, they manage fine. private trackers are more about being in a community that trades media, be it from cross-seeding from other trackers and people sharing their own stuff they ripped, encoded, and/or muxed themselves. I think this should be encouraged, and there's a solid chunk of people that do that sort of thing here too which is awesome. But big difference here versus small pt's (beside i2p being slow): good trackers put emphasis on retention, which should also be important here but it's hit or miss. way i approach it is if i upload it, i seed indefinitely and figure if people like something, they will keep it long-term. If they do i let them have the brunt of bandwidth (and this obviously helps a lot).
you make completely valid points by the way, especially considering the small user base here and higher likelihood of the swarms dying. so it puts more stress on the people that can handle it to hold a lot of torrents down. my opinion is that there's more to gain by having variety than there is to lose. No doubt trust is a big factor too, even more important here since this is the darknet....but also not much different to a small pt that have their own smaller groups that don't get cross-seeded to the public torrent space much (or ever). i'm skeptical of them at first and look into them before i use them, but in some cases they are the ones getting obscure content or some other tailor-made thing i'm after. at least a couple times i've joined a tracker to get access to those releases not being cross-seeded elsewhere (that i could find).
there is some cool niche-level stuff here already especially with the older movies/shows people are putting out. timing can be improved for new things though, but maybe not with postman.
[i]note: no hatred towards megusta et al i've used them a lot in the past myself[/i]
